July 9, 2012
Minutes (Notes) of the meeting of jQuery
Location: #jquery-meeting on Freenode
Attending: DaveMethvin, gibson042, timmywil, jaubourg, gnarf, scott_gonzalez
Time: Noon ET

Official Agenda:

Sizzle

• Sizzle docs updated: https://github.com/jquery/sizzle/wiki/Sizzle-Documentation
• Blog post last week: http://blog.jquery.com/2012/07/04/the-new-sizzle/
• Closure pull needs updated (Dave will ping Chad)

Ajax

Need to refactor ajax dependencies to new file

• serialize, param, parseJSON, parseXML
• otherwise it’s hard to use other ajax impls like $.jsonp
• jaubourg to change

Making promises resolve async

jaubourg has a possible solution

• separate method to resolve sync

dave will start thread in jquery-devs-team

jQuery.unique – no action to be taken

What needs to be done for beta2?

• Full test with UI passing? timmywil says YES it’s done
• still need to fix “:not( .foo ):has( bar )”
• What should “:contains( asdf )” match (spaces) — gibson042′s patch fixes
• Possible effects issue, gnarf to investigate – scott already fixed! WIN!
• beta2 tomorrow

June 18, 2012
Minutes (Notes) of the meeting of jQuery
Location: #jquery-meeting on Freenode & Chat on Google Docs
Attending: DaveMethvin, mikesherov, rwaldron, gibson042, gnarf, timmywil
Time: Noon ET

Official Agenda:

1.8 release

Dave has a trip tomorrow (Tuesday)

• Thursday 6/21? yes

Will we EVAR PASS unit tests in Jenkins?

need to use documentMode instead of ua sniff for ie8 fail

add IE=Edge to TestSwarm as well? (already there!)

https://github.com/jquery/jquery/commit/a416e2ba0d10bf1e1e94b5d023543d38ad08fcfb

• TestSwarm already has that, and the iframe sets it, too

remaining 1.8 items: http://goo.gl/ewuKx

Anything you think should/must land?

• animation events (already a pull)

Bugs can still be fixed after the beta

If you own a ticket and won’t get to it for 1.8, switch to 1.next

Anything happen on createContextualFragment or insertAdjacentHTML?

• Yehuda said he had some work
• Conclusion: pushed out of 1.8

Promises: We can’t make ours “Promise/A compliant”

• Make sure we’re not advertising such
• Todo: document Promise/Q

Brainstorming on $.parseHTML

Can be looser than the $(html) parse

• Timmy mentioned possible fixes there
• Would like to simplify/restrict “looks like html”
• (starts-with “<” has been pushed, 6/20)

Want some way to control whether scripts run

• $.parseHTML(html, { allowScripts: true }); ?
• distinguish allow inline vs. external?

Manual modularity

• Done I think
• Plan a blog entry for it

Compat repo for deprecated/removed stuff? – Dave (still todo)

• Separate plugins including compressed versions
• Combined plugin with everything
• “Debug” version with console.warn msgs?

Documentation

Deprecations – Dave DONE except for global ajax events

Animation hooks Tween etc. — gnarf DONE

Other things needing docs?

.css(‘width’) respects box-sizing, .width() doesn’t; dimension setters – mikesherov

vendor prefixing

• automatic – ‘boxSizing’ will get ‘MozBoxSizing’
• can create cssHooks for vendor-prefixed, which get priority over non-prefixed

git deploy: Jenkins is doing that now (before running TestSwarm)

• needs an update in build to include commit hash, can be passed by Jenkins

June 4, 2012
Minutes (Notes) of the meeting of jQuery
Location: #jquery-meeting on Freenode & Chat on Google Docs
Attending: DaveMethvin, rworth, gibson042, timmywil, jaubourg, rwaldron, mikesherov
Time: Noon ET

Official Agenda:

Schedule for 1.8 release

• beta before the conf (aim for June 19th)
• move quickIs to sizzle?
• land https://github.com/jquery/jquery/pull/808
• bug triage
• remaining 1.8 items: http://goo.gl/ewuKx

Unit test failures (IE only)

https://github.com/jquery/jquery/pull/795

• need an update to QUnit for the fix to raises()

Manual modularity

Great progress here, thanks guys!

mikesherov added dependency mgmt

jaubourg working on ajax

Need a simpler tool (not necessarily by release)

• complexity prevents wrong ppl using it

Drupal? this isn’t for their use case (dave imo)

use AMD wrappers? watch out for cross-module variables!

Compat repo for deprecated/removed stuff? – dave

• Separate plugins including compressed versions
• Combined plugin with everything
• “Debug” version with console.warn msgs?

Documentation

Deprecations – dave created tickets, will finish docs

Animation hooks Tween etc. — gnarf to outline

Other things needing docs?

.css(‘width’) respects box-sizing, .width() doesn’t; dimension setters – mikesherov

vendor prefixing

• automatic – ‘boxSizing’ will get ‘MozBoxSizing’
• can create cssHooks for vendor-prefixed, which get priority over non-prefixed

****June 4, 2012
Minutes (Notes) of the meeting of jQuery
Location: #jquery-meeting on Freenode & Chat on Google Docs
Attending: DaveMethvin, gnarf, rwaldron, gibson042, rworth, danheberden
Time: Noon ET

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Official Agenda:****

Getting help for infra and new docs sites?

• rworth:

Schedule for 1.8 release

• beta before the conf
• bug triage meeting – Wednesday noon?

Unit test failures

http://swarm.jquery.org/job/208

• effects in IE? gnarf can’t look right now – can someone else -mikesherov

http://swarm.jquery.org:8080/job/jQuery%20Core/

strip_iife branch ready to land – if we want to

• line numbers in errors are for the built code – not the src/files.js
• We seem to think that the benefits outway the debugging/development minor hassle
• source maps?
• LAND IT!

JHP for serving – land it?

• Need to coordinate with testswarm – Krinkle?
• Can’t land until jenkins issues are resolved

Need update to README to reflect current build process

• There is a “draft” of these instructions in the strip_iife branch
• LAND IT!

Closure Compiler Advanced Optimizations (CCAO)

• Talk with Chad Killingsworth
• He will rebase against 1.8 later this month
• We will land most of the CCAO unit test changes
• timmywil, did CCAO changes land in Sizzle?

Manual modularity

Landed gibson042′s modularity for effects

Others?

• ajax?
• css and dimensions – mikesherov

Compat repo for deprecated/removed stuff? – dave

• Separate plugins including compressed versions
• Combined plugin with everything
• “Debug” version with console.warn msgs?
• We can host these on code.jquery.com, perhaps other CDNs

Documentation

Deprecations – dave created tickets, will finish docs

Animation hooks Tween etc. — gnarf to outline

Other things needing docs?

.css(‘width’) respects box-sizing, .width() doesn’t; dimension setters – mikesherov

vendor prefixing

• automatic – ‘boxSizing’ will get ‘MozBoxSizing’
• can create cssHooks for vendor-prefixed, which get priority over non-prefixed

Remaining 1.8 items

• http://goo.gl/ewuKx

New items?

• Adding new callbacks for animations – http://bugs.jquery.com/ticket/11797 – gibson

May 21, 2012
Minutes (Notes) of the meeting of jQuery
Location: #jquery-meeting on Freenode
Attending: DaveMethvin, gibson042, mikesherov, rwaldron, Krinkle, scott_gonzalez
Time: Noon ET

Official Agenda:

Unit test failures

• Safari 5.0
• http://swarm.jquery.org/index.php?action=runresults&run_id=990&client_id=7222
• dave Y U CLOSE PULL https://github.com/jquery/jquery/pull/728
• Browserstack is having issues
• after the fix above, only IE6 problems remain

JHP for serving – land it?

• Need to coordinate with testswarm – Krinkle?
• Can’t land until swarm issues are resolved

Need update to README to reflect current build process

Manual modularity

effects – gibson042

• https://github.com/jquery/jquery/pull/786
• grunt option to include/exclude modules, reusable

jaubourg can do ajax part?

Can we deprecate Boolean attrHooks? — probably not

• http://bugs.jquery.com/ticket/11734
• jQuery(“<input type=checkbox>”, { checked: true }); — patch to make it work
• Deprecate jQuery(html, props)  too? — nope

Compat repo for deprecated/removed stuff?

• Separate plugins including compressed versions
• Combined plugin with everything
• “Debug” version with console.warn msgs?
• We can host these on code.jquery.com

Documentation

• Deprecations – dave created tickets, will finish docs
• Animation hooks Tween etc. — gnarf can you outline?
• Other things needing docs?

Remaining 1.8 items

• http://goo.gl/ewuKx
• Sizzle? (reminder: land CCAO changes there)

FYI: wycats trying to get standards to help our selector impl

• https://gist.github.com/c1d6c49873bbba3589b7

May 14, 2012
Minutes (Notes) of the meeting of jQuery
Location: #jquery-meeting on Freenode
Attending: DaveMethvin, mikesherov, rwaldron, timmywil, gnarf
Time: Noon ET

Official Agenda:

1.8

Need to knock down the list of remaining 1.8 items

• http://goo.gl/ewuKx
• Sizzle? (reminder: land CCAO changes there)

Manual modularity

• Allow build without effects, ajax, css even?
• Opened a ticket: http://bugs.jquery.com/ticket/11767
• gnarf will look at animation modularity
• jaubourg can do ajax part?
• dave will look at grunt

Documentation

• Deprecations – dave created tickets
• Animation hooks Tween etc. — gnarf can you outline?
• Other things needing docs?

Size and “bloat”, call for participation on CCAO

mikesherov asks: what browser “versions” do we support?

• versions are a shorthand for focusing support effort?
• specific bug was http://bugs.jquery.com/ticket/11696
• only in Safari 5.0.x
• Only about 15% of Safari is 5.0.x and Safari total is ~15%
• http://www.statowl.com/web_browser_usage_by_subversion.php?1=1&timeframe=last_6&interval=month&chart_id=4&fltr_br=&fltr_os=&fltr_se=&fltr_cn=&holder%5B%5D=safari&limit%5B%5D=5&lock_date=1
• Not worth a lot of effort

Bug triage meeting Thursday 8pm eastern time #jquery-dev

• all the cool kids will attend

April 23, 2012
Minutes (Notes) of the meeting of jQuery
Location: #jquery-meeting on Freenode
Attending: DaveMethvin, rwaldron, timmywil, gibson042, sindresorhus, gnarf, jaubourg
Time: Noon ET

Official Agenda:

new team member – gibson042

Triage

• http://goo.gl/fbZD3
• Need a sweep of bugs and assign to 1.8
• Please look at tickets related to rewrites if you’re doing one
• Dave will ping people on specific tickets if needed

1.8

Beta schedule?

• Need solid final release by end of June
• Work backwards from there
• Beta?
• RC? Want a month given the changes

Unit tests need to work better – Dave will ping jzaefferer

Ready to land animations?

CCAO – can we land the Sizzle CCAO changes as-is? (Timmy says yes)

• mostly quoting of args … not sure of the size impact
• could commit to a branch and have CCAO submodule that?

Timmywil has first cut at Sizzle changes

• https://github.com/timmywil/sizzle/compare/revamp
• currently -215

jQuery.quickReady – land it now? (yep)

Documentation

• New interfaces like quickReady?
• Animation hooks Tween etc.
• Other things needing docs?

Blogs and messaging (Dave)

• Deprecation — goo.gl/Vzaxa (team only)
• Size and “bloat”, call for participation on CCAO

Build process

• code will used shared_var
• Use “grunt watch” to auto-build

gnarf may try to move Trac to a new server

April 16, 2012
Minutes (Notes) of the meeting of jQuery
Location: #jquery-meeting on Freenode
Attending: DaveMethvin, sindresorhus, mikesherov, ajpiano, gnarf, gibson042, fleeting appearance by timmywil
Time: Noon ET

Official Agenda:

rwaldron has commit privs on github.com/jquery

• Congrats!
• Hide yo kids
• Hide yo wife

Triage

• http://goo.gl/fbZD3
• Meeting on Wednesday noon?

1.8

gnarf’s opus on animations

• https://github.com/jquery/jquery/pull/731
• gibson042 kicked lotsa bytes out
• Need performance and memory leak sanity check
• Land this week? Still ~+200

Refactor to allow leaving animation/ajax/(others?) out

• Yehuda eliminated an ajax dependency in unit tests
• More work to do there

Land the grunt pull?

• mikesherov and DaveMethvin to figure out Windows issues

Chad Killingsworth’s CCAO changes

https://github.com/dmethvin/jquery/tree/ccao

needs TLC on its build stuff for grunt

Proposed plan of action:

• Leave on a branch for 1.8
• Get unit tests and basic examples working
• Call for community input and help
• Further 1.9 integration contingent on that

What else needs to land?

• timmywil to get Sizzle changes

jQuery.quickReady

• Can we just always ignore state of iframes?
• can’t use window.load since it fires once
• perhaps flip the default state to allow for faster loading?

April 9, 2012
Minutes (Notes) of the meeting of jQuery
Location: #jquery-meeting on Freenode
Attending: dmethvin, gibson042, timmywil, gnarf, ajpiano, rwaldron
Time: Noon ET

Official Agenda:

Triage

• http://goo.gl/fbZD3
• Meeting? Or can we do comments on the tickets to resolve?

1.8 (April 9 Beta)

Landed many PRs on 1.8pre branch last week

• https://github.com/jquery/jquery/tree/1.8pre

garf’s opus on animations

• https://github.com/jquery/jquery/pull/731
• Team review, need to make it smaller

Chad Killingsworth’s CCAO changes

• https://github.com/dmethvin/jquery/tree/ccao
• needs TLC on its build stuff for grunt
• (General concern about size/complexity/maintenance)
• Waiting to land for another week for further discussion

What else needs to land?

• timmywil to get Sizzle changes next weekend
• build process using grunt

April 2, 2012
Minutes (Notes) of the meeting of jQuery
Location: #jquery-meeting on Freenode
Attending: dmethvin, timmywil, mikesherov, gnarf
Time: Noon ET

Official Agenda:

1.7.2

New issues?

Bad TinyMCE .attr() duck punch seems to be resolved by their beta

• need to land https://github.com/jquery/jquery/pull/720 ? (no, close)
• Thanks mikesherov and rwaldron

Bug tracker misbehavin’ again last week

• Who knows why, but a reboot fixed it…

Style guide: Did we remove the ambiguous “space around quotes” rule?

• Dave to create epic email thread regarding this

http://bugs.jquery.com/ticket/11539 Do we want to change our support for text nodes?

• gibson042: traversing is safe for text nodes, manipulation is not?

Triage

• http://goo.gl/fbZD3
• Dave to coordinate a meeting time this week if possible

1.8 (April 9 Beta)

Dev on master or branch? Consensus: 1.8 on Development Branch

1.8 Feature branch — we’ll land PRs there?

Specific process?

• Make standard PRs but against 1.8 branch (after I create it)
• https://github.com/jquery/jquery/branches
• Um, create 1.8 branch (BRANCH is 1.8pre b/c there was 1.8 subs?)
• WHY CAN’T I label PRs? (gnarf: maybe bc issues are off?)

Several PRs ready to land

jaubourg has been a good boy

Pinged Chad Killingsworth re Closure Compiler, he made a Sizzle PR for some issues to simplify CC work (haven’t reviewed it yet)